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Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada | SELF

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada | SELF
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Ashland Court @ Portage Ave and Main St

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Ashland Court @ The Coulson

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

Ashland Court @ The Coulson

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

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Radio Interview with "Gerri Riggs" of Ashland Court on "The Big Rock Show" with host Tina Peek. - RatPakRecords

Named "Winnipeg's Rock Authority" by Freq 107 - Winnipeg's New Rock Alternative, Ashland Court is one of those rock bands that easily stand out above the rest.
I first heard this band on Powercast Radio ( Blown away by their sound I quickly clicked their band link to discover they are four regular guys with above average talent. Every song they recorded is top notch material without a hint of any wimpy filler tracks.
Ashland Court is Marshall Williams (lead vocals, guitar), Gerri Riggs (lead guitar, vocals), Chaz Darby (bass. vocals) and Turbo (drums, vocals).
The band delivers a never ending cache of brilliant guitar and bass riffs along with powerful percussion. Five phenominal original rock songs produced by Scott Enns and Ashland Court released May 26, 2006. Rock fans will really dig the rhythm of all their material along with outstanding vocal performances and harmonies. With a nod to the arena rock bands of the past that paved the way for today's exciting sound and stage show, Ashland Court delivers.
"Hell's Sweet Hands" is the opening track that takes you on a rocket ride straight into the stratosphere. Marshall Williams is a bonafide rock singer and you could only imagine his musical influences growing up. With it's catchy beat and rhythm from start to finish, you can't help but move something while this song is cranked through your speakers. "Hell's Sweet Hands" has winner written all over it and will be the one to take them to the next level.
Up next is another rocker titled "Take Away". Great drumming on toms and bass drum from Turbo along with cutting edge guitars hitting all the right chords with me. This song delivers a slick guitar solo that has me a heartbeat away from providing an air guitar show.
Midway through the EP "Bleeding Blind" takes a slight dip to mid-tempo but continues to echo the distinctive Ashland Court sound. Almost dark, the song sheds more light on the amazing guitar playing of Gerri Riggs.
Up next is an addictive number that I hope you enjoy as much as me. The chorus riding along Chaz Darby's pulsating bass lines of "Beneficial Tragedy" has a clever lyrical stanza:
...but now that you're gone
I'm feeling so free
I thought I was wrong
I thought it was me
so glad you're gone my beneficial tragedy...
Haha, sweet! I now know I have a certified blackheart as I hear that as one hell of a great love song.
The final song on Ashland Court's debut recording is "Fine". Everything is more than fine for this Central Canadian band who dispense a thunderous barrage of sounds anywhere from powerful chords to simply skimming the frets.
Booking should never be a problem for Ashland Court; they offer such a rich musical atmosphere which is a pleaser for fans, bar owners to stadium managers alike.
Mindy Maygan, the keyboardist from Lydia (Gilbert, Arizona) is the exciting cover model. So what more would you want? Oh, a copy of Ashland Court's cd; visit their website today and they'll get you looked after. Highly recommended.
Chris White

- Party in Kingston .com

by Tina Peek


With so many indie bands out there today and more coming out of the woodwork every week, it's difficult to separate the pretenders from the contenders. Enter Ashland Court, a band that is definitely the latter. With a hard work ethic and fierce determination, this foursome have built a solid reputation and a rabid fan base within Canada. Ready to release their first full-length album and setting their sights to head south of the border next year, it would come as no surprise that many Americans will be welcoming them with open ears and open arms. With catchy lyrics and sweet guitar riffs, their music is a combination of hard rock with a tinge of classic thrown in the mix.

Ashland Court's self-titled 5 song EP, produced by Scott Enns (who has worked with Dope Stars, Inc., Jet Set Satellite and Fear Factory to name a few) leaves you wanting more. The title track "Hell's Sweet Hands" is also the band's signature song and is well-written, heavy, and one of my personal favourites. "Taken Away" shines with Marshall Williams' strong vocals and "Bleeding Blind" is a simple, straight ahead rock tune. Next up is "Beneficial Tragedy", which has a rock/pop sensibility, and was made for radio play. The last track, titled "Fine", is a throw back to a classic rock era long since left behind in favour of alternative sounds.

A fist pumping, great first effort, watching them perform proves there's more left in the tank. Add to that the mix of wonderful personalities, funny and fun to hang out with, it's no wonder their fans travel more than a couple of hundred miles just to see them and show their support.

I had a chance to speak with founding member and guitarist, Gerri Riggs, on the eve of their industry showcase gig here in Toronto last month, where they were preparing to perform in front of some music industry heavyweights.



TP: So how did you come up with the name Ashland Court? That's the first thing I wanted to know.

GR: Everybody wants to know. [laughs] Well, here's a little Winnipeg rock and roll trivia for you... Well, you know Kelly Fairchild obviously? []

TP: Yes, of course.

GR: Okay, well Kelly and I used to be in a band, well, a couple actually.

TP: I didn't know that.

GR: Yeah we played in bands for years.

TP: I love Kelly.

GR: Well he and his ex-wife lived in a building that was called Ashland Court. We used to go there after our gigs and party and stuff all the time. And when Kelly and I were putting together a new band at one point, it wound up being the Atomic Bratz, but his wife at the time had suggested Ashland Court and I thought it was an awesome name and I'd always wanted to call that band that and everyone voted against me, "Nope, nope, no." So we used the Atomic Bratz and two years later that band broke up and I was like, "Hmm, Ashland Court."

TP: That's interesting, I'm glad I asked you that. So when and how did all you guys, the guys in the band now, meet?

GR: Okay, Atomic Bratz. [laughs] Once upon a time, me and Kelly Fairchild were in a band called Atomic Bratz and me and him are both actually front guys, I sing, play guitar and Kelly sings and plays guitar, so we were doing that dual thing where he'd sing, I'd sing, whatever. We talked about getting an actual front-man/lead singer and Kelly came up to me one day and said, "Hey, I saw this band, it was a battle of the bands kind of thing and I started talking to this singer, because he was really good, but the band was kind of shitty." And Marshall (Marshall Williams lead vocals/guitar) is gonna kill me, but it was Marshall and he actually came down and played with our band for about a month, did a show and then bailed on us, because he was all loyal to his friends that he was in the band with. So, long story short, years later I saw Marshall in a bar...

TP: Years later?

GR: About two years, three years later.

TP: Really.

GR: Yeah, I saw him in a bar and he was like, "Are you gonna hit me?" And I'm like, "No." Because he bailed and didn't give us any explanation at the time.

TP: You mean he just disappeared, you didn't know for sure where he was...

GR: Yeah, pretty much. He sent us an email to say he was leaving the band. So everyone was really pissed off at him at the time. But I had a good talk with him, and it was all because the guys he was playing with at the time were all guys he grew up with.

TP: So it was loyalty he felt there, however misplaced, but loyalty all the same.

GR: Well they basically wound up fucking him over. So anyway, I just said, "Well, let's just get together and start working on tunes, I've got an idea, I've got this brainstorm, Ashland Court and I've got songs already. So we started working on tunes together, and we said, "Okay, let's get a band together." I actually got Dale Martyniuk, who was the drummer for Atomic Bratz, he stuck with me after Atomic Bratz and Chaz (Chaz Darby bass/vocals) was actually in Third Degree, which was the band that Marshall was in. And Marshall was like, "Do you want to use Chaz as the bass player?" And I was like, "I don't know."

TP: And this was from the shitty band you were talking about earlier?

GR: Yeah, but since that time they had evolved. His friends that he was so loyal to, had come and gone already, and Chaz was one of the only original guys that he knew that stuck with him throughout the whole thing. So Chaz came down, and the original Ashland Court was me, Marshall, Chaz and Dale Martyniuk on drums. And Dale actually, well I'm pretty sure, knows Brent Fitz really well. []

TP: Oh, does he? Brent's a good friend of mine.

GR: Yeah I know, that's why I mentioned it. He came from the same area, the same school, I think they may have even played drums in the same band.

TP: And what's his name again?

GR: Dale Martyniuk. He played in a lot those big ‘80s hair bands...

TP: Oh yeah? Well Brent definitely would've been into that!

GR: I think they actually, at different times obviously, but I think they had actually played in the same band.

TP: That wouldn't surprise me because Brent's extremely talented and very musical, he's all over the place. So what happened, he left?

GR: Well we kind of kicked him out. [laughs]

TP: Oh, did you really?

GR: Dale's a sweet guy and I miss him dearly, but he's definitely got some issues. I think he's actually found help for them since then, but it was gettin' kinda nasty. It got to the point where no one wanted to even rehearse with the guy. He was very negative, and we're all super positive people. He was always negative and so we let him go and brought in a friend of Marshall's and Chaz's, Turbo. He was actually the drummer on our EP, by the way.

TP: Not Matty Cole?

GR: Matty didn't play on the EP. Turbo was our drummer at the time. He played with us for two years, but he has a wife and two kids and he just wasn't willing to get on the road and do stuff.

TP: Well, it's a big commitment and it's tough if you've got children, especially if they're young.

GR: Yeah, they were like five and six or something like that, and Turbo is a great guy. It's funny, because even him and Matty are friends now. Turbo has always remained our friend. He's our buddy. He never comes up and's funny, he'll show up at gigs once in a while in Winnipeg and he'll never come up and play drums because he doesn't want to step on Matty or anything, but he'll actually come up and sing with us, just get up on stage and do some vocals.

TP: Aww that's nice.

GR: So yeah, Turbo was our drummer for the EP. And when things started happening, when we started to get noticed and were getting radio play and whatnot, we were like, "Okay, we gotta go man." And he was like, "I can't do it, I just can't." But he basically gave us all the time we needed. He said, "Don't worry, just find a replacement and when you do, I'll leave." And that's when Matty answered an ad that I had on like, or one of those musician kind of sites. I just placed an ad saying, "This is who we are, this is what we do, check out our tunes on MySpace and call me if you want to audition."

TP: And that's when Matty came out.

GR: Yeah. First practise we didn't actually know if he was going to be the drummer though. [laughs]

TP: Really? Why?

GR: Well, he came a little under-prepared. [breaks out laughing]

TP: How so? [now I'm laughing] What do you mean, "under-prepared?"

GR: Well because we had given him, I think we gave him the EP beforehand and the first song we wanted to do with him was “Hell's Sweet Hands” because that's our signature tune. And he had no idea how it went. Like he wasn't playing it anything like the way it was supposed to be played. And we were all just kind of looking at each other going, "Oh, uh, this isn't happening." I even said to him, something along the lines of, "Hey dude, did you actually listen to the CD?" [breaks out laughing again] And he was like, "Well I didn't have time and I live in an apartment and...” blah blah blah. So I'm like, "Okay, we're going for a smoke, I see you've got a Walkman there, I suggest you throw the CD in and listen to it." And he did for about 10 minutes and we came back and he actually played it almost perfect. So we were like, "Right on, that's better." [laughs]

TP: Well good thing you guys gave him a fair shake then!

GR: Well I've gotta say, he is an awesome drummer; he just wasn't ready, plain and simple.

TP: For various extenuating circumstances...

GR: Yeah.

TP: Okay, cool. Who were some of your musical influences growing up, especially on guitar?

GR: Well I'd have to say, number one is Randy Rhodes. I actually met his mom.

TP: Did you?

GR: Yeah, it was a very cool experience. Dolores. I don't have it anymore, but a friend of mine, Scott Enns who's actually our producer, he's never met Delores, but he's talked to her on the phone. We have her phone number, and we were actually invited down to L.A. to do that 25 year anniversary of his death, the memorial thing?

TP: Oh yeah, the Randy Rhodes Memorial.

GR: Yeah. She personally invited us, but we couldn't get there, we just didn't have the cash, so...

TP: Wow, that's too bad.

GR: Yeah. So Randy would be number one, and then earlier years, Ritchie Blackmore, Angus Young, Rick Neilson, and then later on in my teens and early ‘20s it was Slash. That's pretty much it. I mean, I've got a lot of musical influences. Like, I think one of the best bands in the world, to me, one of my favourite bands is Collective Soul, but I couldn't even tell you the lead guitar player’s name. [we both laugh] Seriously, I just like their tunes, I like the way they write, but names? Whatever.

TP: Are you self-taught on guitar?

GR: Oh yeah.

TP: Totally self-taught?

GR: Yeah yeah.

TP: That's interesting... Okay, describe in one word, each of your band mates, starting with Marshall. [Gerri breaks out laughing] I know, this question always gets a lot of laughs when I ask it. [we both laugh].

GR: Asshole. [breaks out laughing]

TP: Marshall is an asshole? [we're both laughing Okay, Chaz?

GR: Sweet

TP: Matty?

GR: Fucked up!! [I break out laughing and Gerri is killing himself]

TP: How would you describe your music?

GR: Oh God. In the most simplest terms, SM rock, you know, just hard commercial rock. I mean, we're not metal, definitely not metal. I would just say we're commercial rock. If somebody wants to know, "What do you kind of sound like," which is what I get a lot, it would be a cross between Nickelback and Three Days Grace. I think we're kind of in that ballpark.

TP: Okay. Who does most of the writing, or does everyone contribute?

GR: It's kind of weird, but I'd have to say myself and Marshall. A lot of times he'll have an idea for a song and we usually do that. We don't bring in full songs to practice. We'll bring in a verse and a chorus or maybe a bridge or something, and then all four of us will work on it, all together.

TP: Lyrically?

GR: Both of us, but more Marshall than me.

TP: Ashland Court spent about 4 weeks in Inuvik, Northwest Territories this summer. It must have been beautiful there, but it's also like being in God's Country, isn't it? What was that experience like for the band and how did you come to be out there?

GR: Yeah, it's like a different world.

TP: It is a different world.

GR: It is. Yeah. It's just a bizarre place. We were actually one hour south of Tuktoyaktuk.

TP: Tuktoyaktuk? You realize that I'm going to have to look up that fucking word now to get the right spelling! [we're laughing]

GR: You know what's interesting about Tuktoyaktuk, is that Metallica actually flew their entire show out there and did a free show for the Inuvik people.

TP: Did they? Good for them.

GR: That's the first time I'd heard of Tuktoyaktuk. So yeah, we played up there. It was in a bar, and it was for a month, basically.

TP: In the same bar for one month?

GR: And you know what? Two hundred to three hundred people showed up every night.

TP: Really.

GR: Yeah, it was just crazy. And they love us so much, we're going back. [laughs]

TP: Are you? When are you going back?

GR: Our flight leaves Edmonton on November 23rd.

TP: And you're going for four weeks again?

GR: Yeah, four weeks. We land back in Edmonton December 21st, so it'll be interesting trying to get back to Winnipeg in time for Christmas. Yeah, they fly us out there and pay us well.

TP: And put you up and feed you?

GR: Food you have to fend for yourself, but prices are a lot higher out there.

TP: I bet.

GR: It was really bizarre because everybody there has an almost different perspective on life. You really gotta go there to experience it. Like, one of the things I found really interesting, and I'm glad you brought this up in conversation, is that a couple of our best friends from there now, that we still communicate with all the time, are both from Toronto. There are so many people there from every walk of life, it's unreal. I met a guy from Australia.

TP: Living up there?

GR: Yup. I met a couple of people from New Zealand, one guy from Texas.

TP: And no lights there either, just stop signs, rather than lights, correct?

GR: Yeah, it's a pretty basic little town.

TP: But you had fun there, right?

GR: Oh yeah, we sure did.

TP: It was a good experience. Well, clearly it was, if you're going back.

GR: Oh for sure. Well the money doesn't hurt, either. [breaks out laughing]

TP: True enough! I guess my next question would be, did you have time for reflection and writing while you were there?

GR: Yeah, actually we did. We wrote a lot. A lot of the new songs we're working on had started there. There were a couple that we actually did the old acoustic thing in the rooms and then it was like, we're up on stage and we'd be like, "Alright, let's try the new song." We'd literally do it acoustically and then go out on stage and play it live with electrics and stuff and that's how we actually wrote a few of the new songs.

TP: Well I kind of thought being out there would be very conducive for writing, so peaceful and quiet. You're not being harassed and the phone isn't ringing 200 times a day.

GR: Exactly.

TP: Did you have Internet out there to keep in touch?

GR: Well, the bar did. We could get online, yeah. We weren't on as much as we normally are, though.

TP: Good thing we're talking about writing and new songs, because it kind of segues to my next question... Ashland Court has been working hard on getting a new album out, how is that coming along?

GR: [starts laughing] You know, that's a funny question, because we have more than enough songs for a new album, but we're kind of still writing. We're still in writing mode, and actually, the first song we're going to play tonight is called “Colder I Get” and it's probably one of our newest songs. It's an awesome tune. Every time we think we've got what could be our album, somebody comes up with a new song and we go, "Holy crap, that's gotta be on the album!!" And then we work on that.

TP: How many songs have been written or finished for the new album?

GR: Well, finished is different than written, but there's probably about 20 or 30 songs written.

TP: And finished?

GR: Maybe 15 or something. It's hard for me to say right now.

TP: So how far are you from getting the album actually done?

GR: Well, I think we've got to start recording soon. [laughs It's always been a question of finances, too, with a band like ours. We're not going to spend forty grand on an album, but we do expect to spend at least ten or twelve, somewhere in that range.

TP: And the band pays for that out of pocket?

GR: Pretty much. It's another reason why we've been kind of looking at the idea of maybe signing with someone.

TP: Ah, funny you should mention that, because I was going to ask you how you find being an indie band, all the trials and tribulations you have to go through, because cost wise, it's extremely expensive for indie bands to record, promote, make videos...

GR: Travel.

TP: Travelling, exactly. So are you happy being indie, or would you rather be with a label, even if it means giving up some of your, not sure how to say this...rights, I guess.

GR: No, I know what you're saying, and I think it has to be something bigger than what we can do on our own. We're not going to sign, I don't want to say any names, but we don't want to sign with a small independent label. It's like, why?

TP: Then you might as well stay independent and do your own thing.

GR: Yeah, exactly. I mean, if Roadrunner or BMG or one of those wanted to pick us up, we'd definitely be willing to talk to them.

TP: I know a lot of musicians are diehard indie and are adamant about not signing with a label, then there are others who say, "Thank God I signed with a label, I couldn't handle all the bullshit anymore, it's just too expensive, time consuming and it was draining us." Obviously as a band, you want to be able to concentrate more on the writing and the music, because it's all about the music and playing, you don't want to have to worry about all the other little things that you do have to worry about when you're an indie band.

GR: Yeah, totally. And I think for any musician the goal is always to play bigger stages and sell more. Well, you don't really sell albums anymore anyway if we need to get signed to play arenas, then that's what we need to do, because that's our goal is to be an arena touring act. We want to play the big shows. That's what we're all about.

TP: I totally get that. Okay, tonight you're in Toronto for an industry showcase. How did you get this opportunity?

GR: Well we're always looking for promoters and agents, and I don't even know how, but I found this site on MySpace. The dude's name is Dante, and I emailed him saying we'd be interested in doing a show. We were actually originally planning on coming here (Toronto) in October and doing Calgary, our western tour first, but he was like, "Well I've got an opening in September at the Opera House if you're interested." And I was like, "Sure, just fill me in on the details and yeah, we're there."

TP: This is an industry showcase where Roadrunner, BMG and some other labels will be here and they'll be checking out all the bands performing tonight. Does it make you nervous knowing there are people out there, labels that are looking at you in a different light maybe?

GR: No, not at all. [laughs] It's just another show. It really is, because we always go out there to rock. So this isn't anything different for us.

TP: Mentioning tours, does the band plan on heading out to the States sometime in the near future?

GR: Yes. [laughs] When, is another question. We're hoping for early next year.

TP: Do you think the new album will be completed by next year, so you can promote that as well?

GR: I hope so. We've been talking to a few promoters and booking agents down in the States and they do want to book us but, we're like, "Okay, well if we're going to do this, then let's set up a good tour for three or four months kind of thing and make sure we have the new album before we do that."

TP: Well yeah, you want to push the new album.

GR: Yeah, for sure.

TP: So when are you saying the album will be completed, because you know your fans are going to hold you to this, right? [we laugh]

GR: Early next year.

TP: Early being March, April?

GR: Yeah February, March, somewhere in there. Hopefully.

TP: Oh February or March, okay. I also wanted to ask you about a new video?

GR: Yeah, well it's kind of strange, it's actually, although it's not new to you and to a lot of people that have seen us from the very beginning, but “Hell's Sweet Hands” is probably going to be our first video. And the reason we decided to do that was because it's still getting picked up weekly by new radio stations and it's new to a lot of people. We're also going to redo it and have it on the new album. That's the only song from the EP that will be on the new album.

TP: And when are you guys going to shoot the new video, any idea?

GR: I would like to say very soon, but the meeting I had set up with the guy who we were considering to do it, bailed on me two weeks ago. [laughs]

TP: Nooo....

GR: Yeah. I don't know what happened to him, but he was supposed to actually be at our show in Winnipeg and he said, "Yeah I'll be there, okay." And I was like, "Okay, because I already have a script in mind, so you're going to have to start working on a story board,” blah blah blah, and yeah, he didn't show up. I haven't actually emailed him back and he hasn't even emailed me, so I thought that's very strange.

TP: That is very strange.

GR: I guess our money isn't good enough for him, I don't know. [laughs]

TP: So what now? You're obviously not going to use this guy, so I guess you just move forward and find someone else.

GR: Yeah.

TP: Well you can't be with someone who's unreliable.

GR: Yeah, exactly.

TP: Of course, you haven't filmed it, so I guess you don't have an idea as to when the video might come out, but do you think it might coincide with the new album and the reworked song and maybe put out the album and hit it with the video at the same time?

GR: I would love to do that, yeah!

TP: Great. Okay I think that's pretty much it Gerri. Do you have any last words you want to add, or messages to your fans? You've got some pretty diehard fans, I've seen them on MySpace. They're travelling all over hell’s acres to see you guys.

GR: Well you know, what it really boils down to, is we really do appreciate our fans and I think they know that, so I don't feel we need to tell them that, but it's the truth, we've become friends with most of our fans. I mean, some people are just kind of weird about it, they seem kind of standoffish when I say, "Hey, I'm Gerri." I've actually had some girls go, "Oh, it's okay." [he mimics backing away] But most people are very receptive to it. I mean, we contact people all the time on our Facebook and email and I'm in daily contact with some of our fans, I mean, we'll always talk to people. We know that they're the reason why we do this.

TP: It's what drives the band, because if they're not there, then who are you playing to?

GR: Exactly. And we just like to make friends.

TP: Good stuff! Well thanks so much Gerri for giving me your time today and I’m looking forward to seeing you perform tonight!

GR: Thank you Tina.

- Crusher Magazine

(quote) The five songs on this EP are the sort of stuff that gets fists pumping - John Kendel

(quote) Great hooks, solid musical riffs.. - Calvin Daniels


Ashland Court "Control" - Full length CD
Ashland Court - Self titled EP
Single: Hell's Sweet Hands - top 10 on numerous internet radio sites, added to Freq 107 FM (Winnipeg, Modern Rock) and featured on many rock stations across Canada.



Formed in 2004 Ashland Court is no stranger to the road, hard work and a quality act separates this band from many others. With the independent release of their 5 song EP this band received moderate success with FM radio in Canada and worldwide internet stations.
The single Hell’s Sweet Hands continues to open doors for the group. With air play in new markets and most recently a contract has been signed to have the song featured on Truly an exciting time for the band and its followers. With a new amazing CD coming out in December 2010 and high profile shows the guys are ready to take flight to the next level of their careers.
With hundreds of shows behind them they own the stage and deliver a solid energetic performance every time. The song writing has reached an all time high with Williams, Darby & Riggs with solid and exciting rock riffs and great memorable vocal melodies some of the new songs to watch for are Colder, Control, Waste it, Funny How it is and new Reality. The album is a roller coaster of sound that entices the listener to keep listening. Ashland Court has their own sound their songs are neither boring or predictable. New flavors of melody, harmony, beats and guitar work keep the CD entertaining from start to finish. br> The new CD features 11 new tracks including a short acoustic guitar track by Mr. Riggs and an acoustic song by Marshall Williams both have the endearing qualities you would expect from these guys, 9 new full out rock songs, previously unreleased and 2 tracks that were remixed from their debut EP, Hell’s Sweet Hands and beneficial Tragedy. The CD is one great track after another and is sure to convince the skeptics that Ashland Court deserves to be on the big stage and have heavy FM rotation here in Canada and beyond. A few of the bands Ashland Court has done shows with Finding Core Tracenine Little Sunday Automan Krome Robin Black Todd Kerns Bif naked Crash Karma Pride Tiger

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