More Or Les

More Or Les

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With 3 CDs, Can., US., & EU touring under his belt, & featured on The Herbaliser’s latest album, MC, DJ & producer More Or Les is a hip hop triple threat. His latest CD: The Les-Kils EP, made with TO Producer Fresh Kils, features the hilarious Middle School music video: Pop N Chips - seen on YouTube


For video of More Or Les, please check the following links:

POP N CHIPS - More Or Les & Fresh Kils feat. Ghettosocks & Timbuctu
now on:

More Or Les with the Herbaliser:

More Or Les live performances:

More Or Les and Fresh Kils on CBC Radio 3:

With two critically-acclaimed albums, a noted music video, North American and European touring under his belt and a feature on the latest album of UK's The Herbaliser - MC, Producer and DJ, More or Les is a hip hop triple threat. With a new CD released in summer of 2009, The Les Kils EP is a collaborative effort with talented TO musician, Producer Fresh Kils. Since its release, the EP has received rave reviews and a debut #1 spot on CIUT radio. A hilarious ode to Middle School rap, the music video single Pop N Chips (featuring Halifax rap phenom Ghettosocks and London, ON emcee Timbuctu) can be seen on MuchMusic, MusiquePlus and YouTube.

More Or Les’ performance career includes such highlights as showcases at SXSW in 2010 and 2009, 2008 Halifax Pop Explosion, Pop Montréal Festival in ’08 and ’07, ManifesTO Cultural Arts Festival, '09 and '08 Under Pressure Festival, the Luminato Festival, Harbourfront Centre, Wavelength’s 7th Anniversary, Canadian appearances on the Vans Warped Tour, opening for Eyedea & Abilities, a tour of Eastern Canada with the Wordburglar, appearances at The Second City, Style In Progress, a trip to each coast with the Perpetual Motion Roadshow, many local clubs around Toronto, Government of Canada Pavilions at the 2003 World Cycling Championships and the Canadian National Exhibition, as well as busking on the streets.

Music releases for More Or Les include his debut and sophomore albums I only stop for the Red Ants and The Truth About Rap respectively, and appearances on the latest release of The Herbaliser. Appearing on their 2008 album "Same As It Never Was", More or Les connected with the group over three shows (Toronto, Ottawa & Montreal) on their 2005 Canadian tour, a week-long gig in London, UK in November 05 and European & Canadian tours in 2006 and 2008.

With "crates steeped deep in hip hop history," Les is a DJ and host at Toronto's new monthly Hip Hop showcase 5 Dollar Rap Show, and co-host of the media-attention-grabbing Hip Hop Karaoke. He was also the resident DJ at the classic Hip Hop event Never Forgive Action, and Toronto's most influential underground hip hop showcase, In Divine Style, which ran weekly from 2001-2006.


Sucka Word

Written By: More Or Les - Leslie Seaforth, SOCAN

INTRO (scratched):
Try not to say it x 4

I be hating Sucka' emcees, and the sucka' word,
thinking that you're soft if you don't use it at all; that's absurd.
Rhyme-wise, it's my life to tell tales precisely,
so I ask "Why's it that some Black People like the

word so much that hurts so much?"
It's slutty use, and one can only flirt so much
'til people get hip to your misery. (You) Can't forget history,
and thinking we can take the "bad" out of it just means shit to me!

Black People say saying it "disarms" the (N-)bomb but
White People saying it will still cause some harm. What's
the chance of it being harmless, when you're still feeling shocked if
anybody says it, regardless of their ethnic background?

That's now the point I'm trying to make:
is words are weapons - we put ourselves on a stake,
or bayonet, grenade, or gas - 'cause we're gassed
into thinking we can take back a word we never had.

CHORUS 1 (scratched):
Little shorties say it all of the time,
but I don't. x 2
Say it all of the time,
and we will never grow.
That's how I feel.

Class in session: research showed me that
most english words come from another language.
The mother of this particular word is Spanish.
And by the time it had reached this land, it managed

to take on a negative tone getting used
by slave owners. "Better get use to abuse
both physical and verbal" seems like the message given.
Two-hundred years prior, they illegalized the whippins

but the talk's still happening today;
but in an episode of the Twilight Zone, coming out the face
of an image looking similar to mine in a mirror.
What kind of a hero wants his kind to be zeros?

What I'm steering clear of is segregation - separatin'
that (word) from the "Blacks" like Chris Rock suggests. Obsessed,
thinking "you with me or against me?" That's on some
Strange Love, like (Flava) Flav. I don't wanna be called "yo --"

CHORUS 2 (scratched):
Black and White
use it as a term of endearment
but I don't.
Say it all of the time,
and we will never grow.
That's how I feel.

I be hating Sucka' emcees using the sucka' word.
Thinking that you're hard 'cause you use that shit a lot; that's absurd.
Rhyme-wise, you've got lots of options; observe
twenty-seven thousand in a book named Oxford

or Merriam-Webster. Playing them jester
roles 'cause your speech is limited makes me sick.
'Cause when rights for you didn't exist, people risked
their lives for you to benefit. Now you piss

it all away like every song's a holiday.
(Too) Busy sleeping, and I want you all awake.
And I ain't even talking 'bout conscious rhymes.
You don't have to watch your mouth, but a watchful eye

will see in your freedom of speech, it's your speech that traps you
like "Who cares?! It's just a word," and what-have-you.
While racists laugh at you, I want us to find
a way to solve the number one Black-on-Black Crime.

CHORUS 3 (scratched):
say it all of the time,
but I don't. x 2
Say it all of the time,
and we will never grow.
That's how I feel.

(C) 2006, Leslie Seaforth.


The Les-Kils EP (2009)

The Truth About Rap (2006)
I only stop for the Red Ants - shrinkwrap edition (2004)
I only stop for the Red Ants - early edition (2003)

2009 - "Unorthodox", Peter Project, album: Fresh EP
2008 - "Game, Set, Match", The Herbaliser, album: Same As It Never Was
2008 - "Words", The Herbaliser feat. Jessica Darling, album: Same As It Never Was (Japanese release and bonus track on ITunes only)
2008 - "Repetitive Stress Injury", Peter Project, album: Peter Project
2008 - "Get Up Remix", Rhythmicru feat. Shad, album: D-Ray's Supertoke Mixtape vol. 3
2008 (as DJ only) - "John Deere Out Here", Rhythmicru feat. Spesh K, Timbuktu, Wordburglar, album: D-Ray's Supertoke Mixtape vol. 3
2008 - "Keep It Moving", Rhythmicru feat. Wordburglar, album: D-Ray's Supertoke Mixtape vol. 3
2008 - "We Have Come For Your Children", Rhythmicru feat. Ghetto Socks, Wordburglar, Odario and Uncle Dropsi, album: D-Ray's Supertoke Mixtape vol. 3
2007 - "Safe No More", Jesse Dangerously feat. Wordburglar and Apt, album: Verba Volant
2007 - "Carnies", Rhythmicru feat. Wordburglar, album: D-Ray's Supertoke Mixtape vol. 2
2007 "Turn It Up", Rhythmicru, album: D-Ray's Supertoke Mixtape vol. 2
2006 (as DJ only) - "Laymen's Terms", Wordburglar, album: Burglaritis
2006 - "Spit Fresh", Wordburglar, album: Burglaritis (also appeared as DJ)
2006 (as DJ only) - "The Route" Wordburglar, album: Burglaritis
2006 - "Time Flies", Rhythmicru, album: D-Ray's Supertoke Mixtape vol. 1
2005 - "Three", Dragon Fli Empire feat. N'didi Cascade, album: Invasion
2005 - "Time and Space Remix", Green TaRA feat. N'didi Cascade, Deanna, Chi Turner, album: Music for a Mixed Nation (vinyl only)
2004 - "Beautiful Mutant", Mindbender feat. 4th Pyramid, Chuggo, Vangel, Fritz Da Cat, Ill Seer, Eternia, album: Beautiful Mutant (disc two)


Video Games
2010 - vocals featured on the soundtrack for "ModNation Racers" - Kart racing game available on Sony PlayStation 3

2007 - song "Emission Admission" featured in Animated Short Emission Admission by Sarah Lazarovic
2007 - songs "Maundoe Flute" and "Maundoe Fun" featured in Animated Documentary Mondo Condo by Sarah Lazarovic

2004 - "MuchEminem" - in-studio freestyle battle on MuchMusic
2004 - "Urban Groove" - in-studio performance on bpm:tv
2004 - "Richler Ink" - featured music video "A Little Too Much Weed" on an episode on Bravo

Music Videos
2009 - "Pop N Chips" - feat. Ghettosocks and Timbuktu from the More Or Les and Fresh Kils release Les Kils EP - directed by Darrell Faria, produced by Mike MacMillan for Lithium Studios
2009 - "We Have Come for Your Children" - by Rhythmicru feat. Ghetto Socks, Wordburglar, More Or Les, Odario Williams, and Uncle Dropsi - directed by Arv Slabosevicius for Ghostmilk Studios
2008 - "Oscillate!" (as "Shoxxx" from the short film series Hot Snack Radio) - directed and co-written by Matt Eastman, music by Fresh Kils
2004 - "A Little Too Much Weed" - directed by Matt Eastman

2008 - "Get creative for cash: rap edition" - article in the Toronto Star
2006 - "E = emcees2" co-written with Jill Murray for The State of the Arts: Living With Culture in Toronto (published by Coach House Press)